Thursday, October 29, 2009

Longing for Jerusalem, waiting for truth, praying for remorse

The false historical views of Shlomo Sand and the Israel/Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

This is a return to my concern with the history of the Jewish people as it is written by the Israel/Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

The Jewish people’s love of Jerusalem and their desire to return there if only for pilgrimage has been a constant through the ages. Nobel peace prize recipient, Elie Wiesel, in a speech given at the University of California, Santa Barbara, the Herman P. and Sophia Taubman Endowed Symposia in Jewish Studies series, stated:

“Like every Jew in those times and those places [Eastern Europe-in the early twentieth century] we had a dream, the dream of Jerusalem. I knew the name of Jerusalem before I knew the name of my town. The first lullaby that my mother would sing for me was about Jerusalem, first prayers about Jerusalem.

I remember the custom which to this day exists in many places. One is not suppose to leave a knife on the table in the Jewish home when we say grace. One reason is that we believe every table is an altar, and therefore the knife that can be used to kill cannot be part of the altar. …

The other reason is that our Sages were afraid that when we are saying grace when we come to a certain verse that speaks about Jerusalem that the person would be so over come with nostalgia and pain over the destruction of Jerusalem that …we would take a knife and plunge it in the heart. That is to tell you the place Jerusalem occupied in our mind and our soul and our life.”

Marina Benjamin author of Last Days in Babylon: The History of a Family, the Story of a Nation, when visiting Baghdad, the past home of her grandmother, experiences the continuing anti-Semitic attitudes and writes, “Jewish people will often remark that only in Israel does their feeling of Jewishness disappear, because only in Israel, where being Jewish is the pervasive norm is it inconsequential. Having visited Israel several times, I can vouch for having experienced this strange unburdening.”

Journalist, arts editor and author, Benjamin explains in her book about the Jews of Baghdad before their exile which is linked to the birth of Israel in 1948.

“…the Jews of Baghdad, a minority group that had ancient roots in the land, dating from Assyrian and Babylonian exiles of the eighth and sixth centuries BC, when much of the Jewish population of Judaea was deported. Jews had been here for more than a thousand years when the Islamic armies conquered Mesopotamia. They had flourished for centuries. From Ottoman times until the middle of the last century, Jews had dominated trade and finance in Baghdad. They enjoyed religious and communal autonomy, hobnobbed with tribal dignitaries and government officials, and in every sphere of life they were conspicuous, prosperous and influential.”

She later adds this interesting bit of information: “In fact, Baghdadi Jews had been busy establishing trading posts outside Mesopotamia since the middle of the nineteenth century. Beyond England and Persia, there were pockets of Baghdadi Jews trading in Bombay and Calcutta; in Rangoon, the former capital of Burma; and in Hong Kong, Shanghai, and Japan. It was from these satellite communities that the famous Sassoon and Kadoorie dynasties sprang the former responsible for a vast textile empire strung across India’s major urban centers, and the latter for founding the largest finance house in Shanghai.”

And yet, the extremely poor view of Jewish history that the booklet Steadfast Hope: The Palestinian Quest for Just Peace offers destroys not only the reason for the Jewish longing for Jerusalem but also the true history of Jerusalem. The Israel/Palestine Mission Network used as their reference Shlomo Sand who recently wrote a popular history of Israel, Zionism and the Jewish People. The book is When and How was the Jewish People Invented?

I have in other articles pointed out that IPMN was using Sand’s book to infer that those Israelis that came both from Europe and the Arab countries to Israel were not the descendents of the ancient Israelites. This anti-Semitic idea was welcomed by the IPMN because they hoped to destroy any “theological claim” to the Land of Israel. Quoting Sands their author writes:

“The founding narrative of the State of Israel links the modern-day Jews’ claim to the land of Israel/Palestine to their direct genealogical descent from the ancient Israelites. Recent anthropological scholarship shows that this widespread belief is very likely a myth, not historical fact. Shlomo Sand, an expert on European history at the university of Tel Aviv, and author of When and How Was the Jewish People Invented? posits that the Jews were never exiled en masse from the Holy Land and that many European Jewish populations converted to the faith centuries later. Thus, he argues, many of today’s Israelis who emigrated from Europe after World War II have little or no genealogical connection to the ancient land of Israel.”

The book by Sand is now being published in English under the title, The Invention of the Jewish People, and there are new critical reviews of the book. One of the reviews is entitled “Inventing Israel: Historian Shlomo Sand argues that ‘Jewish peoplehood’ is a myth.” It is written by Evan R. Goldstein. He begins the review:

“The key assumptions about Israel and the Jews are indelible. Forced from Jerusalem into exile, the Jews dispersed throughout the world, always remaining attached to their ancient homeland. Psalmists wept when they remembered Zion. A people were sustained by an unflagging determination to return to their native soil. ‘Next year in Jerusalem!’ The triumph of Zionism—the founding of Israel—is the fulfillment of that ancient vow. The Israeli Declaration of Independence states it plainly: “Eretz Yisrael was the birthplace of the Jewish people… After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people remained faithful to it throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.”

Now suppose that none of it is true.”

Goldstein explains that Sand denies all of the above Jewish history. He also shows how Sand connects the European Jew to “Turkic Khazars” and the Arab Jews to “North African Berbers.”

Goldstein also writes:

"There is, perhaps, a precedent for this type of work. In 1976, the anti-Communist writer Arthur Koestler published The Thirteenth Tribe, a tendentious little book to which Sand owes a great intellectual debt. Koestler argued that the Jews of Eastern Europe are the descendants of Khazars, a Turkic people who dominated the Russian steppes from the mid-7th century to the beginning of the second millennium. Around 740, the ruling elite of Khazaria converted to Judaism. Koestler speculated that after the collapse of Khazaria those converts drifted westward into Poland, forming the nucleus of Eastern European Jewry. Lacerated by critics, Koestler’s book was nonetheless propelled onto the best-seller list for a few weeks. “Today,” Jeffrey Goldberg, national correspondent for The Atlantic, told me, “The Thirteenth Tribe is a combination of discredited and forgotten.

But Koestler and the Khazar theory he advanced lives on in the fever swamps of the white nationalist movement, where Sand’s ideas have already stirred some interest. ‘Sand is not publishing this book at a dignified conference in Bern at which scholars of the Middle East debate the origins of the Jews,’ said Goldberg, also a Tablet Magazine contributing editor. ‘He is dropping manufactured facts into a world that in many cases is ready, willing, and happy to believe the absolute worst conspiracy theories about Jews and to use those conspiracy theories to justify physically hurting Jews.’ Goldberg views The Invention of the Jewish People as part of a growing body of work designed not only to discredit the idea of Jewish nationalism, but also the idea of Jews themselves. ‘It is nothing new,” he added, ‘We survived Koestler’s The Thirteenth Tribe; we can survive this.’”

In my first posting on Steadfast Hope I also wrote on the connection of Sand's strange historical ideas and their similarity and use by extreme Racists groups. That posting is, Were Holocaust victims linked genealogically to biblical Israel?.

But let me say again that within the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) this is a tremendous problem. That we have an official organization, Israel/Palestine Mission Network, which is accountable to no one, that is offering the general public as well as Christians such garbage is outrageous. It is sin. As a Christian and an Elder in the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) I am dismayed that no one in leadership is speaking up against such anti-Semitic diatribe. And I am still waiting, praying and writing. I will not cease

Another Book Review: by Goldstein-"Where Do Jews Come From?"






38 comments:

Anonymous said...

Once again, thank you for this, Viola. Wouldn't it be nice for someone--anyone--from Louisville to respond to your reporting on the spectacle that they implicitly support that is the IPMN?

David Fischler
Woodbridge, VA

Viola Larson said...

I would count that as a miracle. And God does allow them now and then, I say hopefully.

Viola Larson
Sacramento, Ca

Neil D. Cowling said...

Let us grant for a moment the legitimacy of your complaint about the historical inaccuracies of the Israel/Palestine Mission Network and its publication Steadfast Hope.

The far more important question before the world, however, is not a question about Professor Sand's historical scholarship. The question before the world is whether or not Palestinians have a legitimate claim to a homeland as well. How does the world reconcile those claims? Or do you, Viola, want to suggest that there is no legitimacy to claims of Palestinians, Christian and Muslim alike, who also long for a homeland with as much passion as Elie Wiesel?

Peace!
Neil D. Cowling, Pastor
Kirk of Our Savior
Westland, MI

Debbie said...

Viola's point is not merely to discredit these authors. Her claim is that the PCUSA is advocating for Palestine's claims on the the homeland you refer to, partly because of information given by the IPMN, which the IPMN partly bases on the racist claims of these authors. Thus the PCUSA is in danger of advocating for Palestine's claims based on racism against Jews. The PCUSA needs to clearly and overtly distance itself from such views if it is going to continue to advocate for Palestinians.

Debbie said...

Forgot to say:

Debbie Berkley
Bellevue, WA

Viola Larson said...

No Neil,
I cannot prioritize that way. Are you suggesting that the need for a Palestinian homeland, and they certainly need one, is greater than a church organization constantly pushing forms of anti-Semitism without the denomination saying Stop, go no further. That is exactly what the German Christians refused to do in the Nazi era until it was too late.
Yes the Palestinians need a homeland, but the answer is not very simplistic. Every time I look at the news or read articles on Palestinian web sites, I see this constant infighting between various factions by the leadership. I feel sorry for the Palestinians but the answer is not as simple as Israel saying go ahead. Instead it has a lot to do with Israel’s security and the leadership of the Palestinians. Iran has a hand in this as does Hezbollah. They all need to admit that a Jewish Israel has a right to exist.

But for the here and now on this posting the issue is my denomination allowing one of its organizations to fuel anti-Semitism here and in the Middle East. That is called sin.

Viola Larson
Sacramento, Ca

Pastor Victor Styrsky said...

99.3% of the land mass surrounding Israel is occupied by Arab nations, leaving .7% of the area to the Jewish nation of Israel.

A book of matches on a football field represents the same percentages.

Exactly how much more land must Israel give to its Arab cousins to satisfy their "need" for a homeland?

Zechariah 12:3

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Pastor Victor Styrsky said...

99.3% of the land mass surrounding Israel is occupied by Arab nations, leaving .7% of the area to the Jewish nation of Israel.

A book of matches on a football field represents the same percentages.

Exactly how much more land must Israel give to its Arab cousins to satisfy their "need" for a homeland?

Zechariah 12:3

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Kattie said...

"A book of matches on a football field represents the same percentages."

Where did you learn to do math?! That's one BIG book of matches my friend. LOL

Pastor Victor Styrsky said...

I am horrible in math...its true.

Michael Medved makes the point (below) that I echoed in my comment.

ISRAEL’S ALLEGEDLY “EXPANSIONIST” AND “IMPERIALIST” NATURE

By Michael Medved
Wednesday, August 9, 2006

In order to credit Islamist denunciations of an “Israeli Empire,” or worry that the perennially embattled Jewish state might indeed count as uniquely aggressive and power hungry, one must remain incurably ignorant not only of contemporary history but of rudimentary geography.

The merest glance at a map reveals the incontrovertible fact that Israel remains, in every sense, a tiny nation.

Egypt alone – representing only one of Israel’s twenty hostile Arab neighbors—is more than 48 times the land area of Israel. Adding together only the various Arab nations (without including other vast Islamic homelands like Iran and Afghanistan and Pakistan), the Arabs control well over 300 times the area of the New Jersey-sized Jewish state.

In other words, even before President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran succeeds (God forbid) in his plan to “wipe Israel from the map,” 99.7% of the Arab lands are already free of Jews.

Pastor Victor Styrsky said...

OK...workin' on my lack of math skills here.

The size of Israel is:

•1/6 of 1 percent (1/625) of the land of the Arab League Nations.

Or in other words, it is a bit like a "big" book of matches on a football field.
Ha!

Kattie said...

Ok Victor,

You're right that would be a big book of matches. If it was square, it would be more than 8 feet on each side.

Not bad for the Israelis, who got that land by the mandate of those who didn't actually live in the area, much to the dismay and disgust of those who did. Of course the Israelis weren't satisfied with what they were given.

Viola Larson said...

Kattie,
This statement "Of course the Israelis weren't satisfied with what they were given." is just utterly beyond belief.

The Israelis fought for the land in 1948, 47 too, because Arab nations attacked them. They fought in 1967 because many Arab nations were threatening them and Egypt had removed the UN peace keepers who were a buffer between Israel and Egypt, and because the Straits of Tiran had been closed, and because of terrorist strikes from several places.

Russia also had something to do with it because they fed lies to the Syrians that Israel had troops massed on their border. It is a very complicated and interesting story but had nothing to do with Israel wanting more territory.

What Israel wants is peace and to be given the assurance that she can exist as a Jewish nation.

Viola Larson
Sacramento,
Ca

Pastor Victor Styrsky said...

Kattie, you have been a great help!

How about "a book of matches on a tennis court?" Still makes a good point when it comes to land mass and equity, wouldn't you say?

Though my math skills are limited to be sure, I can be taught.

Folks with your view of history have a much tougher hill to climb.

I pray you make it to the top...I really do.

Kattie said...

"is just utterly beyond belief. "

Oh, I'm sorry, I was under the impression they didn't stay within their negotiated boarders. Maybe I should check my history books again. Maybe you should too.

Victor,
How about a match book on a card table (about 30 inches on a side).

My view of history is based upon as many perspectives as I can gather. How about yours?

Kattie
Huntsville, Al

Pastor Victor Styrsky said...

Thank you Kattie...

I think we look at the same sources but are wearing different glasses to be sure.

(And I was under the impression that as Christians we would all tend to throw the Bible into the mix of our perspectives as well.)

Genesis 13:13,15
And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, "Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever."

Kevin Brook said...

As noted by Viola, Shlomo Sand's book is a work of propaganda and does not tell the truth about Jewish history.

The books "Abraham's Children" by Jon Entine and "Jacob's Legacy" by David Goldstein explain why the DNA studies on Jewish populations are scientifically valid and test many hypotheses. Most of the geneticists have no political or religious agenda, simply a curiosity to check which populations are related to others. The studies have become very detailed, with ever-larger sample sizes and numbers of participating ethnic groups. For Sand to try to discredit these studies is intellectually dishonest.

Ashkenazic Jews from Europe have a large amount of Middle Eastern ancestry that can be explained by the (very valid indeed) migration of Jews from Israel to the Roman Empire and from there to Germany and the Czech lands and later to Eastern Europe. It is a fact that thousands of Israelite slaves were brought to Rome to construct the Colliseum and work in other capacities. It is also a fact that these Roman Jews became related to other Jews in Europe, by genetics, by documents, and even in a few cases by names. It is true that they intermarried with converted European women, but that did not erase their Middle Eastern essence.

The total amount of Khazar ancestry in Ashkenazic Jews appears to be around 20 percent. (Yes, Viola, there is some - most of the Khazars didn't convert to Orthodox Christianity as you once asserted.) On the paternal side, when we look at the Y-DNA genetic types found in Ashkenazim that come from Eastern Europe, Central Asia, and the Caucasus, they add up to around 18 or 19 percent. On the maternal side, mtDNA also fails to show a majority Khazar ancestry.

But we don't have to rely solely on genetics. Historical documents and name studies also document every stage in the migration of Jews from Israel to Russia. Alexander Beider's brilliant research showed that the German and Czech Jews were numerically stronger than the Slavic-speaking Khazarian Jews of Belarus and Ukraine.

My book "The Jews of Khazaria, Second Edition", explains all of this with full citations. I also have an appendix discussing the origins of other groups like Yemenite Jews and North African Jews, and showing that the conversions to Judaism did not account for their entire makeup. Almost every Jewish population in the world is partially Israelite. Please read my book for the truth, and spread the word. Use it to counter Sand's lies. Details at http://www.khazaria.com/brook.html

Viola Larson said...

Thank you Victor,
I like your match book analogy. And I like your tying everything to God’s word.

Kattie said...

"(And I was under the impression that as Christians we would all tend to throw the Bible into the mix of our perspectives as well.)"

I know I do, so what's your point?

Of course I'm not a "Christian Zionist". I don't believe the "People of Israel" are necessarily tied to a particular place or a particular race, and the "Temple" is not necessarily a building in the modern day, Middle Eastern city of Jerusalem. Of course some people interpret the Bible differently than I do.

I have no greater or lesser love for the people living in the State of Israel than I have for any other people.

Kattie
Huntsville, Al

Viola Larson said...

Kevin,
Thank you for sharing your expertise. I have now ordered your book and one of the others you mentioned. I have also ordered Sand’s book. I will hopefully write on it eventually.

Viola Larson said...

Kattie,
I am curious, my posting was on the Jewish people of today being disconnected from the ancient Israelites. I was concerned with Sand's book. What is your thought on my actual posting?

Pastor Victor Styrsky said...

"I don't believe the 'People of Israel' are necessarily tied to a particular place or a particular race, and the "Temple" is not necessarily a building in the modern day, Middle Eastern city of Jerusalem."

Reminds me a little of my Hispanic father-in-law who was raised with the Catholic church "perspective."

When told that Mary, the mother of Jesus was a Jew he demanded, "WHO TOLD YOU THESE THINGS??"

"THE NEXT THING YOU ARE GOING TO TELL ME IS THAT SHE IS NOT A VIRGIN!"

Different glasses...

Kattie said...

Ok Viola,

You quoted the IPMN as stating, "the Jews were never exiled en masse from the Holy Land and that many European Jewish populations converted to the faith centuries later. Thus, he argues, many of today’s Israelis who emigrated from Europe after World War II have little or no genealogical connection to the ancient land of Israel.”

How many do you think it takes to be "many"? How many do you suppose they believe it takes to be "many"? Have you bothered to ask them?

Anonymous said...

How many do you think it takes to be "many"? How many do you suppose they believe it takes to be "many"? Have you bothered to ask them?

Here's the real question, Kattie: what difference does it make?

So what if there are Jews who emigrated to Israel from Europe who are genetically related to the ancient Israelites? Do you really think that the world's anti-Semites really care about such trivialities?

Israel was founded as a place that could provide a sanctuary for a people that had been kicked from pillar to post for centuries by people who found them objectionable for a variety of "reasons," none of which had to do with their genetic connection to ancient Israel, and everything to do with their being Jewish. When I hear anyone, but especially Gentiles, play these games of political genetics, and think that it has anything to do with reality on the ground in the Middle East, it makes my skin crawl.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, Viola. That should be signed

David Fischler
Woodbridge, VA

Viola Larson said...

Kattie,
You did not look at that whole quote. The awful truth of the matter is the IPMN actually made the Sand quote, you used, worse. If you turn around what they say it reads like this:

"Recent anthropological scholarship shows that this widespread belief [the modern-day Jews’ claim to the land of Israel/Palestine to their direct genealogical descent from the ancient Israelites]is very likely a myth."

When that is stated I don't need to ask any questions of the IPMN. The fact is that the Israel/Palestine Mission Network is insisting that most European and Arab Jews are not descendents of ancient Israel. That is an extreme anti-Semitic claim.

And I don't need to ask you the question I asked anymore; you have already answered it.

Viola Larson
Sacramento, Ca

Kattie said...

That is an interesting question David, but I was responding directly to Viola's question.

The post was about the history of the Jewish people, Sand's book, and the IPMN. It is my concern that Viola, either mistakenly or deliberately, exagerated the statements made by either Sand, the IPMN, or both. I'm simply trying to understand how she reacts when she sees the term "many", and if she bothered to look into how the writers intended it to be viewed. It appears to me that much of her argument concerning Sand and the IPMN hinges on that.

Kattie said...

Viola,

"The fact is that the Israel/Palestine Mission Network is insisting that most European and Arab Jews are not descendents of ancient Israel."

Where is the IPMN "insisting" this? You seem to be exagerating, not unlike our brother Victor with his match book example. Please stick to the actual facts.

You write as though you want us to believe the entire "myth vs. established fact" argument, the IPMN mentions, rests entirely on Sand's work. I would not be so simplistic in my reasoning.

Viola Larson said...

Kattie,
I am not sure of everything you are writing or asking. But here are some thoughts of mine.

You write, "You write as though you want us to believe the entire "myth vs. established fact" argument, the IPMN mentions, rests entirely on Sand's work. I would not be so simplistic in my reasoning."

A lot of Sand's work rest on work that has already been disproven; if you read the review I linked to. And the truth is it is mostly Sand's book that the IPMN is resting its case on.

But to get much deeper into the discussion in the direction you want to go is to me futile. After all I am writing about the anti-Semitic views of the IPMN and Sand's book.

The real fact here is that first you ignored my question and now you are trying to change the subject.

Viola Larson
Sacramento, ca

Pastor Victor Styrsky said...

Kattie, Kattie, Kattie!

You helped me!
I was wrong about the "matchbook on a football field" due to reading and believing other folks who used the example. (And due to a complete lack of math skills.)

I exagerated out of ignorance...not much of an excuse, but the sad truth nevertheless.

I will NEVER speak it again as it is not true. Here is what I am now saying, much thanks to you!

Doing a quick fact check on the geography, Israel at 22,145 sq km and the 22 member Arab League at 13,953,041 sq km.

The ratio is approx. .0016. (1/16 of 1%)

So the next time you sit down to eat dinner with your children/or friends, pull out a matchbook and drop it on the table. (Dining tables are an average of 16 sq ft., matchbooks approx 3-3.5 sq in., etc)

OK, ok...it doesn't seem near as dramatic as the stupid football field example, but forget you ever heard my fuzzy math example and just try it.

Sitting at the table and staring at it is simply stunning to one's sensibilities.

I tried it tonight with some high school aged kids and then asked them why they thought Israel needed to give up more land for there to be peace in the Middle East.

They laughed.

Sometimes grownups must appear to be confused.

Dexter Van Zile said...

Viola,

Great job.

Neil Cowling's comment ignores a couple of points. First Israel has accepted the creation of a Palestinian state. Ehud Barak made an offer at Camp David in 2000. Arafat said no, and tellingly, made no counter-offer.

People may think Barak's offer wasn't any good, but the fact is, Arafat did not make a counter offer. That is telling.

Secondly, Barak accepted the Clinton Parameters a few months later. Arafat said no, despite the fact that Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia warned him to not take the deal would be a crime.

Neil Cowling and many other so-called peace activists insist on promoting the cause of a Palestinian state without holding Palestinian leaders accountable for their actions.

Liberation theology does a good job of supporting ... well, liberation ... but not a good job of encouraging people to accept responsibility for their actions. The message of the Exodus narrative is quite clear that yes, God wants us to be free. But other books in the Torah also make it perfectly clear that we are to be accountable as well.

And you are right about Kattie's assertion that the Israelis "weren't satisfied with what they were given."

They accepted partition in 1947. The Arabs did not.

Kattie's false assertion is emblematic of a troubling contempt for Israel that motivates much of so-called "peace" activism in the PC(USA).

Again, great job. The responses to your post are very illuminating.

Viola Larson said...

Dexter thank you,
For the information and the affirmation. Both are helpful.

Kattie said...

Dexter,

I think it's troubling that you find my assertion false. It makes me wonder if there is no Israeli land grab you would find problematic.

Of course Israel accepted partition in '47, and of course the Arabs did not. What else would you expect?

Kattie,
Huntsville, Al

Abundancetrek said...

What Neil said.

love, john + www.abundancetrek.com + "Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. (the speech containing this famous quote is found at http://www.indiana.edu/~ivieweb/mlkwhere.html)

Abundancetrek said...

I am amazed at the lack of compassion for the plight of the Palestinians which I see in so many people who think Israel can do no wrong.

The United Nations attempted to create a Palestinian state in 1947 far larger than the West Bank and Gaza as it was finally created by the cease fire of 1948 (or was it 1949?) The UN attempted to make Jerusalem an international city, a sensible policy since Jerusalem is cherished by all 3 Abrahmic religions.

I realize the Arab nations opposed this plan unanimously at the time. But they would sure accept it now. And I would love to see it implemented.

The denial and ignorance of so many Americans is simply outrageous. Jerusalem and the West Bank are the homeland of Arab Christians and Arab Moslems. Israel needs to let go of their violent policy of colonizing land which is simply not theirs.

Colonization and slavery and segregation and other evils were the rule of the planet for many centuries but that changed with the United Nations and the consensus of most nations after WW2.

Israel. Leave the West Bank ASAP and return it to the people who have lived there for centuries.

USA. Stop supporting this illegal and immoral colonization, apartheid and ethnic cleansing.

love, john + www.abundancetrek.com + "Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. (the speech containing this famous quote is found at http://www.indiana.edu/~ivieweb/mlkwhere.html)

Abundancetrek said...

I pray for the leaders of all 3 of the Abrahamic religions to come together and find ways to establish peace and justice in Jerusalem and the entire Holy Land.

love, john + www.abundancetrek.com + "The quest for a story is the quest for a life.” — Jill Johnston quoted in The Vein of Gold by Julia Cameron

Viola Larson said...

I am not so sure of all of this John, "Colonization and slavery and segregation and other evils were the rule of the planet for many centuries but that changed with the United Nations and the consensus of most nations after WW2.

Israel. Leave the West Bank ASAP and return it to the people who have lived there for centuries.

USA. Stop supporting this illegal and immoral colonization, apartheid and ethnic cleansing."

There is probably more slavery today than ever, in particular in Darfur.

I don't believe Israel is committing ethnic cleansing that is an anti-Semitic remark. She does need to do a better job of helping the Palestinians. But at the moment I feel the UN has nothing to do with the world being a better place. But the Lord Jesus Christ is with us.

Abundancetrek said...

You seem to have a strong urge to call people anti-semitic who disagree with you. It is well documented that what is going on in the West Bank is illegal and immoral and clearly the goal is to push out most of the Moslems and Christians and other non-Jews who have lived there for centuries.

The idea that the Biblical Israel needs to be restored is absurd. It ranks with the absurdity of believing that all of us Europeans should be forced out of North America and sent back to our original homeland. In my case, I would have to be divided up to Norway, Scotland and England. But, oh, do I have Norman blood? That part of me would have to be sent back to France.

In other words, people have moved all over the place and to say that political boundaries of 2500 years ago should be respected is, well, as I said, absurd.

The United Nations 1947 resolution should be implemented, giving back land to the Moslem & Christian Palestinians (or at least paying for it) and making Jerusalem an international city.

I give you no right to declare that I am Anti-Semitic. It is offensive and hurtful and simply sinful for you to do so. I am opposed to the policies of my government, the government of United States of America, which is enabling ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Our declared policy is that we are opposed to the colonies in the West Bank and Jerusalem but we always have looked the other way as the colonies have proliferated and we continue to send enormous amounts of financial aid to the government of Israel as it continues to defy international law and basic morality. We are complicit in this defiance. This is sinful and I must speak out.

love, john + www.abundancetrek.com + We are intimately, intricately and infinitely connected by a matrix of unconditional, unlimited and uniting love which is miraculous, mysterious and marvelous.