The Los Ranchos Presbytery has a discernment page for their people as they face the changes in the denomination. It is both unique and a great example for other presbyteries. Recently they provided a dialogue between Laird Stuart, Teaching Elder and member of the Covenant Network, Jack Haberer, Editor of the Presbyterian Outlook and Dana Allin a Teaching Elder who has recently left the PC (U.S.A.).
There are several videos and perhaps it is not fair to present just one video since they are talking about three issues, the authority of Scripture, LGBTQ issues and Jesus as the only way of salvation. To me the Christological question is the most important, although the other two issues feed into that one. But I am profoundly interested in the opinions of others including my readers on this issue. Andrew Purves is quoted as the person who refers to "the singular saving Lordship of Jesus Christ," and if you listen to the whole video you will know why I refer to him. (I believe that is an important term-it covers all we need to say)
I would suggest going to the You-Tube site and listening to all of the videos, but in particular the three videos that feature each guest separately. They are all kind, polite and informative.
I do want to make several comments about the dialogue. Haberer insists that Old Testament saints were saved without knowing Jesus Christ as savior. In a sense he is right, but I think that is too simplistic a way of putting it. Their faith was not just in God but in his promises. Haberer refers to chapter 11 of Hebrews the great faith chapter and speaks of those who waited for the fulfillment of the promise, the life, death and resurrection of Christ. (Heb. 11:39-40). But we need to look at another place in Scripture where this is clarified.
As Calvin points out when he is writing of the Sacraments:
Since the apostle speaks in no higher terms of the one than of the other [the sacraments of the Old & New Testament], when he says the fathers ate of the same spiritual food, and explains that that food was Christ (1 Cor. x.3.) who will presume to regard it as an empty sign that which gave a manifestation to the Jews of true communion with Christ?
Calvin also insists that in either Testament there is no true sacrament that does not either “shadow a promised Christ” or bears “testimony to him as already come and manifested.” It is Christ who saves, and his sacrificial death whether by promise or event is the reality of the Old and New Testament.
The writer of Hebrews explains that Moses chose to suffer with the people of God, rather “than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, considering the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures of Egypt.” The author writes:
All these died in faith without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. (Heb 11:13)
This issue is the ultimate issue—if you comment here do it politely and kindly.