Update: A friend sent me this information: "For several years now, all kinds of entities of the PCUSA have published stuff on the same web address that PNS uses. However, PNS has no responsibility for anything that is not clearly published by PNS itself. The article about Zionism Unsettled says it was published by The Israel Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). They are free to do what they want, including opening up the possibility for responses, without PNS doing the same thing for their articles, and they don’t need PNS permission for it."
This changes most of my thoughts on this posting. Everywhere I have placed the Presbyterian News Service I should put the Israel/Palestine Mission Network, except for the article by the PC (U.S.A.) So I am changing it now, including the title.
This is insufferable and awful! The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) really doesn’t want to hear the voices of their own members if they disagree with any supposedly progressive organization in the denomination. On the other hand the Israel/Palestine Mission Network of the PC (U.S.A.) advertised their publication on the news service with an article about Zionism Unsettled. “Presbyteriannetwork opens new dialogue on Zionism” was published on January 21st. They immediately allowed comments about the publication. They listened to any bigot who wanted to write a comment. The last one by George Duke being:
This changes most of my thoughts on this posting. Everywhere I have placed the Presbyterian News Service I should put the Israel/Palestine Mission Network, except for the article by the PC (U.S.A.) So I am changing it now, including the title.
This is insufferable and awful! The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) really doesn’t want to hear the voices of their own members if they disagree with any supposedly progressive organization in the denomination. On the other hand the Israel/Palestine Mission Network of the PC (U.S.A.) advertised their publication on the news service with an article about Zionism Unsettled. “Presbyteriannetwork opens new dialogue on Zionism” was published on January 21st. They immediately allowed comments about the publication. They listened to any bigot who wanted to write a comment. The last one by George Duke being:
The
Jewish supremacists should take this report seriously. It shows that the church
will not shill for their lies any more.
The other news article
about Zionism Unsettled was the PC
(U.S.A.) attempting to take a neutral position. That article, Presbyterian
Church (U.S.A.) remains committed to peace for Israelis and Palestinians” was published February the 13th. The PNS did
not allow comments, not even for several days after I asked the author, Kathy Francis,
the PC (U.S.A.) communications director why none were allowed. Then after
burying the article in their archives they finally published some of the
comments. I say some because one of the now published comments is by
Presbyterian Dr. Martha E. Leatherman who is asking why her comment was not
published and I see no other comment by her.
But back to the other
article, the one which lifts up and highlights Zionism Unsettled. While there are comments by Presbyterians on the
first article, “Presbyteriannetwork opens new dialogue on Zionism,” there are also well known, and
unknown bigots with comments such as the one above.
One of the ant-Semites is
Tom Usher. He wrote and IPMN published it:
Zionism
is anti-Christ. Ask the Jewish-Zionists. They aren't interested in God's and
Jesus's message of loving their neighbors. They stomp on their neighbors trying
to get them to submit under Jewish supremacy. They steal their land by force of
arms. Have you heard the racism and ethnic bigotry coming out of Jewish-Zionist
leaders? It's wicked. How can the Church not stand opposed to twisted, worldly
Zionism? Peace, love, and truth, Tom Usher
Usher writes on a blog, Real
Liberal Christian Church. One article he connects to on his blog is from
Veterans Today and it is the idea that Israel was the instigators of 9-11. It
is an interview by Gordon Duff, chairman of Veterans Today.
Another commenter is Tyron
Parsons. He writes and IPMN allowed:
This
is good news. Finally a traditional Christian org in America stands up to the
uber hypocritical "Jewish" Zionist power structure. Its about time.
Fact is, Jewish Zionism is based in Judaism/Talmudism as an all encompassing
outward expression of other Jewish controlled movements such as
Marxism-Communism. Its end goal is a world Gov seated by the main Anti Christ.
Zionism is Judaism and it is the so called "Jews" common law where as
true Israelites (European/white/Christians) common law is Christian/Natural
law. Both of these
common laws show the difference between the DNA/spirit of Esau "Jews"
and European/whites-Christians (Jacob-Israel/Judah). The so called Jews,
"Israelis" bid for World Gov will happen but it is destined to be
replaced by God's people (Authentic Christians) when the true lord returns, exposing
the false and planting HIS kingdom on their apostasy. (By the way- don't even
try and calling me "anti semitic". I will post "Jewish"
admissions to all I have said above, all day long". 95% of the so called
"Jews" don't have natural links to the tribes of Israel. They are
impostors (Rev 2 and 3) coming from Maternal links to Esau and Ashkenaz who are
from Japeth, not Shem (Genesis 10:3).
Another commenter, Charles
Carlson, who sells historical revisionists (denying the Holocaust) books
states:
Bravo PCUSA: I cannot wait to get my copy of
Zionism Unsettled. Based on all reviews, including desperately distorted ones
from some who share in the guilt. This is a vital need fulfilled. And PCUSA
will not be the last. For too long Christian Zionist in American evangelical
churches, including, Richard L. Land of the Southern Baptist convention, have
blame the victim for every act of brutality against them, and getting away with
it. But the movement to discover and expose what Occupation is, is rooted and
growing in the traditional churches like the PCUSA, who know abut [sic]missions.
Scripture is on their side. "Blessed are the Peacemakers." Restated:
Who would Jesus Bomb, or imprison for sixty years? From one who has seen Gaza
from the inside, Charles E Carlson
I have written about
Charles Carlson here: Who
is Charles E. Carlson & why does he picket churches?.
This is a true picture of what
happens when one opens the door to darkness, all the minions of hell will
waddle in through the door. It also a picture of what happens when you ignore
the voices of your own denomination. It may be that the Israel/Palestine
Mission Network speaks to the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) but so do all of the
other members and their voices have real meaning. I believe an apology needs to
come from the
Office of the General Assembly and from the Israel/Palestine Mission Network. And while we are in the business of apologies
the Jewish people need an apology for all of the trash allowed in the comments.
And I should apologize to the Presbyterian News Service because I thought they were involved in the problem.
And I should apologize to the Presbyterian News Service because I thought they were involved in the problem.