tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post4897889517570581377..comments2024-03-12T08:04:47.314-07:00Comments on Naming His Grace: The gathered storm, the love of Jesus and Rev. Tim KellerViola Larsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-57956031128029243502017-03-25T13:58:47.042-07:002017-03-25T13:58:47.042-07:00I've been in the PC(USA)since 1980; as a teach...I've been in the PC(USA)since 1980; as a teaching elder since 2002. I've yet to read or experience anything out of the PCA that "sought to encourage congregations to leave the PCUSA" as Bruce Gillette alleges. In fact the very limited contact I've had with PCA pastors has had them encouraging me to stay in the PC(USA) as an orthodox witness. We can debate whether or not I have been that, but that's another story.<br /><br />Keller himself is one of the great gifts to the American church, a gentle, irenic witness to the love and grace and truth in Jesus Christ. Concerns aside, I would encourage his relatively few detractors to read his writings and explore for yourself the deep well of wisdom and grace he has to share. You will be blessed.. Chris Enochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10122610291274152409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-71060039530145893952017-03-25T13:57:18.028-07:002017-03-25T13:57:18.028-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chris Enochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10122610291274152409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-41094946284019014412017-03-25T10:47:24.956-07:002017-03-25T10:47:24.956-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chris Enochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10122610291274152409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-68333970282661398652017-03-24T14:30:52.679-07:002017-03-24T14:30:52.679-07:00Bruce, your tone in the first two sentences is ver...Bruce, your tone in the first two sentences is very off-putting. In my 34 years as an ordained PCUSA pastor I have never been encouraged by my pastor friends in the PCA to leave the denomination. Rev. Keller's interpretation of Scripture leads him and the rest of the PCA to hold the position they do in regard to women in leadership. To those in the PCA, their position is not sexist. The "abuse"comment is over the top. Please document such comments as well as the one about the PCA lying about the PCUSA in order to encourage congregations to leave their denomination. Frankly, you and I can't hold a candle to the grace, intelligence, leadership and biblical scholarship of Rev. Keller. Jeff Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10142996112736793481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-56084230053255198842017-03-24T14:27:55.545-07:002017-03-24T14:27:55.545-07:00Jeff and Mark thank you for your comments.Jeff and Mark thank you for your comments.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-9658101183865467362017-03-24T14:26:58.327-07:002017-03-24T14:26:58.327-07:00Bruce I do believe in the very distant past some P...Bruce I do believe in the very distant past some PCA members tried to get PCUSA members to leave, but not Tim Keller and not many others. I don't believe as a whole the PCA has lied about the PCUSA. I also don't see Keller's views on women as sexist, simply because he believes, biblically, that women can't be ordained. I don't agree with him but I understand that he is trying to be faithful.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-42414123094684992322017-03-24T14:25:35.146-07:002017-03-24T14:25:35.146-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-91912831295426794832017-03-24T09:47:04.558-07:002017-03-24T09:47:04.558-07:00Tim Keller is a member of the PCA which has lied a...Tim Keller is a member of the PCA which has lied about the PCUSA for years as it sought to encourage congregations to leave the PCUSA to join the PCA. Keller has written in support of the PCA's sexist positions against women serving as pastors and women submitting to their husbands that can lead to abuse. I am fine with his being invited to speak at the seminary that I have two graduate degrees from, but am also happy he is not getting an award since his sexist positions snubbing women are in no way showing excellence in the Reformed tradition. Bruce Gillettenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-18220677337792776112017-03-24T06:25:31.306-07:002017-03-24T06:25:31.306-07:00Viola, thank you for heartfelt words. I agreeViola, thank you for heartfelt words. I agreeJeff Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10142996112736793481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-26249894693445226422017-03-23T22:03:17.148-07:002017-03-23T22:03:17.148-07:00Amen. Thanks Viola. Amen. Thanks Viola. Dr Mark Pattersonnoreply@blogger.com