tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post3451263674886135304..comments2024-03-12T08:04:47.314-07:00Comments on Naming His Grace: My thoughts on the Fellowship of Presbyterian's Theology paperViola Larsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-81526149546383945182011-12-16T13:32:54.335-08:002011-12-16T13:32:54.335-08:00Oh!Oh! I wondered why my ears were burning: )Oh!Oh! I wondered why my ears were burning: )Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-68128643792486770972011-12-16T13:30:16.300-08:002011-12-16T13:30:16.300-08:00Viola, thank you for your review & insights on...Viola, thank you for your review & insights on this. Al Sandalow, was just talking about you with Dave Drotts's son who helps in my Sunday School class!Barbara Long Red-Horsenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-4946934704232299102011-12-14T20:48:19.203-08:002011-12-14T20:48:19.203-08:00John one of the important parts of having Confessi...John one of the important parts of having Confessions is reading them, studying them and taking them seriously. Richard Mouw pointed out during the debate on Belhar that we tend to use the confessions as museum pieces; that if we take them seriously the Belhar would have been covered by the rest. I think he is right. There is much good in the Confession of 67- it stance on marriage between a man and a woman and the words surrounding that are good. And even its words on the authority of the word when laid beside the other Confessions such as Westminster is helpful. But we don't take any of the Confessions seriously.<br />And the fact is I would hate to lose some of the Confessions such as Barmen and the Second Helvetic Confession. And I see a Book of Confessions with the Apostles Creed and Nicene as crucial in this post-modern time. And I love the fact that we have the Chalcedon at least referenced in the Second Helvetic Confession. I wish we had the words.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-66081681145230301702011-12-14T13:58:01.242-08:002011-12-14T13:58:01.242-08:00Viola
With regard to your post on the Outlook, I ...Viola<br /><br />With regard to your post on the Outlook, I was surprised that the Fellowship proposal retained the entire BOC, as the Confession of 1967 caused problems with some evangelicals with it's comments one the writers of scripture.John McNeesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301421993866391399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-37556156192196792962011-12-11T11:10:50.957-08:002011-12-11T11:10:50.957-08:00Those are good words and advice Al.Those are good words and advice Al.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-25397709040944274202011-12-11T10:45:24.262-08:002011-12-11T10:45:24.262-08:00Thanks for your comments. I really like what has b...Thanks for your comments. I really like what has been written and do feel that it could be tweaked in a few places.<br /><br />However, I do hope we evangelicals will avoid our seemingly deep seeded desire to insist that stuff be added or re-written to satisfy our individual desires (or all too often our pet peeves or special interests). Historically we have often failed in our attempts at unity because we have been no better at agreeing with each other than we have with the progressive wing of the denomination. We are often our own worst enemies. <br /><br />Remember that these are just “essentials”. It is not a document that attempts to replace the confessions, nor repeat their scope and depth. To slightly misquote John Piper “We do not assume that the process of deciding what is true and valuable starts over with every generation. It didn’t start with us. Therefore, we are a confessional church”.Al Sandalownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-34175433434473539402011-12-09T12:15:13.921-08:002011-12-09T12:15:13.921-08:00I forgot to say Merry Christmas too!I forgot to say Merry Christmas too!Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-83671173568010076812011-12-09T12:14:37.166-08:002011-12-09T12:14:37.166-08:00Hi Dave,
I do not want to make a precise answer o...Hi Dave,<br /><br />I do not want to make a precise answer on your question. However, I do include the EPC and others as well as the evangelicals of the PCUSA. Because at the Conference in Minneapolis it was mentioned how we need to have fellowship with all parts of the Reformed tradition and how that was helpful on both sides. But the PCUSA keeps us from doing that. I also meant some progressives in the PCUSA our longing for what they do not know. I do believe in the moving of the Holy Spirit to change attitudes about essentials and the person of Christ.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-66829662432640859732011-12-09T11:53:05.683-08:002011-12-09T11:53:05.683-08:00Thanks Vi... it is good. Appreciate your thoughts....Thanks Vi... it is good. Appreciate your thoughts. <br /><br />You state at the beginning that "all presbyterians long for a safe harbor, etc... " My question: is that statement accurate? I assume you mean EPC, OPC, PCA etc.. or is that a statement about PCUSA evangelicals? <br /><br />I keep hearing from corners of FB hints, assumptions, by PCUSA folks, that everyone is in flux (EPC, etc..) and eventually evangelical presby's will all be together under something FoP ish. I'm not commenting on that - other than asking where the data is for those assumptions? I'm truly ignorant on that.<br /><br />Thanks again Vi, Merry Christmas!Dave Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08217094060036455319noreply@blogger.com