tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post6471411179257956156..comments2024-03-12T08:04:47.314-07:00Comments on Naming His Grace: What does God in creation mean biblically?Viola Larsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-41747875653595793352008-10-05T13:09:00.000-07:002008-10-05T13:09:00.000-07:00Adel,I was not focusing exclusively on Moltmann. W...Adel,<BR/>I was not focusing exclusively on Moltmann. While I strongly disagree with Moltmann's view of God I believe he does posit a personal God. Not all wrong theology is devoid of a personal God. May I, if you are interested, recommend the book I have footnoted in my posting. <I>Panentheism: The Other God of the Philosophers</I> It is by John W. Cooper who as a professor teaches philosophical theology at Calvin Theological Seminary. His book covers a host of different Panentheists and process theologians and philosophers. And Cooper, who is reformed and a very Christian theist, in the last chapter explains why he is not a Panentheist. He makes a very good apologia for Christian theism over against panentheism. But on top of that he is very polite toward those he criticizes, something I can certainly learn from.<BR/><BR/>Also, I might add to interest you, he points out that while Jonathan Edwards was certainly a reformed Biblical Christian, he was in his philosophy a Panentheist, and probably because he was influenced by the Cambridge Platonists.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-57441650064579160852008-10-05T05:39:00.000-07:002008-10-05T05:39:00.000-07:00I'm sorry Viola. I did not mean to insinuate that...I'm sorry Viola. I did not mean to insinuate that you were not aware of this, only that I did not see it indicated anywhere on you post. Nor was I aware that you were focusing exclusively on Moltmann. While I am far from an expert on Moltmann (or even a student of his writing), your statement about him and most of the assessments of him that I have read over the years indicate that while he claims his idea of God is personal and defends that, the ultimate outcome of his theology is still an impersonal God.Adel Thaloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14059435921761098111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-2763337469485952622008-10-04T20:19:00.000-07:002008-10-04T20:19:00.000-07:00Adel I am aware that many, probably most panenthei...Adel I am aware that many, probably most panentheists hold to some kind of impersonal force or ground of being like Tillich. But there are a few "Christian" panentheist like Moltmann who hold to a personal God, however interestingly, Moltmann believes that the unity of the Trinity is worked out in the immanent trinity and is an evolving process.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-75063892152368845752008-10-04T19:03:00.000-07:002008-10-04T19:03:00.000-07:00Very good points Viola, though I probably would ha...Very good points Viola, though I probably would have come at this issue from a different direction.<BR/><BR/>You might also want to clearly indicate that most panentheists have a view of God that is impersonal, while the God of the Bible is clearly personal (three persons) and not merely an impersonal force.Adel Thaloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14059435921761098111noreply@blogger.com