tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post6079371352863398386..comments2024-03-12T08:04:47.314-07:00Comments on Naming His Grace: Dealing with sadness and looking at hope ...Viola Larsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-43479205120199214532012-01-16T08:11:56.808-08:002012-01-16T08:11:56.808-08:00Thanks Greg. I looked and it didn't go into my...Thanks Greg. I looked and it didn't go into my spam box. I don't know what happened.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-5392717586106016262012-01-16T06:31:00.174-08:002012-01-16T06:31:00.174-08:00I tried to answer here, Viola, but for some reason...I tried to answer here, Viola, but for some reason it didn't go through. Perhaps it was too long, so I posted it on my blog at http://gmscan.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/homophobe/#comment-221<br /><br />Greg Scandlen<br />Waynesboro, PAGreg Scandlennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-5488365064750671412012-01-15T07:23:24.173-08:002012-01-15T07:23:24.173-08:00Al, it is and a little scary. I went back and look...Al, it is and a little scary. I went back and looked at his comment on my blog and it was a sacramento number. I didn't see that before.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-50457906096612657482012-01-14T21:59:36.767-08:002012-01-14T21:59:36.767-08:00>He even mentioned that my small great granddau...>He even mentioned that my small great granddaughter had on rainbow colored leggings that is a symbol of the LGBT community. “What’s up with that,” he wrote.<br />>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br /><br />Whoa, that's creppy and a little stalkerish<br /><br />Al SandalowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-47206746971468483272012-01-14T11:21:58.434-08:002012-01-14T11:21:58.434-08:00This comment is not by me but I am reposting it af...This comment is not by me but I am reposting it after deleting it so that Greg can respond and so that rest of my readers will realize how some are not only contentious but also dishonest.<br /><br />""they know what scripture says but defy the word"<br /><br />If it was about a uniform application of Scripture, I might believe that. If it was about a fair and uniform application of the old reading of the book of order, I might believe that.<br /><br />But it is NOT! <br /><br />It really is about homophobia first, and the application of proof text second. <br /><br />If we study how Jesus read Scripture and used it in debating the teachers of Scripture of His time, it is easy to see that using the Scriptures as proof text to condemn a whole class of people is wrong.<br /><br />"Tolerance" is not be a Christian virtue, and never has been. But asking for tolerance of intolerance, as a means of scoffing at those who wish to pay forward God's grace, invites God's judgment just the same. <br /><br />Maybe more so. <br /><br />Rigorous self examination is required before one presumes to use Scripture to condemn others. Because, according to Scripture, the measure we use will be the measure we receive. <br /><br />It may be that certain individuals can pass such a test and are free to point the scolding finger of biblical judgment with impunity. But the corporate institution of the Church, and specifically the PCUSA, cannot.<br /><br />Come now. <br /><br />By what measure can such a fallen institution judge its own members for being fallen? By what standard can it do so and escape its own judgment? And specifically, is institutional homophobia really an adequate response to Grace? <br /><br />Every institution needs a fair and equitable code of ethics, and Church officers must be held accountable to them. Pastors who seduce the wives of the men of the church should always be fired. Child molesters have no place behind the pulpit. Standard HR rules for conduct in the workplace should be upheld. But God's calling is a come-as-you-are party. That is why we call it "grace". So, having eliminated all the separation laws called out in Scripture, having allowed women to teach in public and even be ordained as ministers, having allowed the institution of marriage to be less binding than a membership in a local gym, why should we now hold the line against biological gender preference? <br /><br />What standard are you now holding that you haven't already thrown away? <br /><br />I simply don't believe you when you say Scripture has anything to do with it. You have no credibility at all in that regard. <br /><br />It really is just simple plain homophobia. Just another form of bigotry raising its ugly head. Again.<br /><br />Carl Hahn<br />Atlanta, Ga<br />January 14, 2012 3:34 AM"Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-86056811090452519472012-01-14T11:17:49.941-08:002012-01-14T11:17:49.941-08:00Greg, I still have it in word. I saved it for a re...Greg, I still have it in word. I saved it for a reason. You know I have a feed on my site. There is a place toward the bottom of my blog where you can see it. But I also have a page that no one can see but me. Sometimes people try to fool me into thinking they are some body different. This person did pretend but I know who he is and where he was coming from so I deleted him. I will send it to you. It was coming from Inglewood, Ca and was probably Jodie.<br /><br />After reading your comment and thinking about it, maybe I will just repost it.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-37361312890753809562012-01-14T11:06:01.827-08:002012-01-14T11:06:01.827-08:00Viola,
I am sorry you took down that other post. ...Viola,<br /><br />I am sorry you took down that other post. I thought it was a wonderful example of exactly what I was talking about. If you still have it could you e-mail it to me at GMSCan@comcast.net ? I want to respond to it on my own blog.<br /><br />Greg Scandlen<br />Waynesboro, PAGreg Scandlennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-33394503048715807662012-01-13T20:37:18.546-08:002012-01-13T20:37:18.546-08:00Yes Patrick-please Lord have mercy.
Greg that is ...Yes Patrick-please Lord have mercy.<br /><br />Greg that is outrageous. I think that once somebody decides that something is true despite what the Scriptures says; I mean they know what scripture says but defy the word, the path just keeps going downward.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-26001634633590237292012-01-13T16:42:33.530-08:002012-01-13T16:42:33.530-08:00I don't remember if I shared this before.
A ...I don't remember if I shared this before. <br /><br />A few months ago there was a meeting of three local congregations at a local church. Our executive presbyter came, I thought to listen to our concerns. Nope. He was there to scold us for being unenlightened, even though our presbytery voted solidly against 10-A. <br /><br />Half way through the meeting a couple got up, red in the face from anger, called us all a bunch of homophobes, and stormed out.<br /><br />Apparently "tolerance" is a one way street.<br /><br />Greg Scandlen<br />Waynesboro, PAGreg Scandlennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-42248501240492167062012-01-13T14:56:53.103-08:002012-01-13T14:56:53.103-08:00So much brokenness, so much healing desperately ne...So much brokenness, so much healing desperately needed. Lord have mercy!Patrick Wattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07389184352257587125noreply@blogger.com