tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post4744822841806173567..comments2024-03-12T08:04:47.314-07:00Comments on Naming His Grace: Israel/Palestine Mission Network: they are against the purposes of God Viola Larsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-19667515589505244152014-06-28T21:40:05.605-07:002014-06-28T21:40:05.605-07:00Jodie there are presbyteries that would, you are r...Jodie there are presbyteries that would, you are right. I do not believe mine would. But it is something to think about.Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-1589042693919726042014-06-28T20:52:50.545-07:002014-06-28T20:52:50.545-07:00IPMN does not need to be "de-certified",...IPMN does not need to be "de-certified", as much as it can be simply dismissed. It is an advisory committee to the GA, and advisory committees can be formed and dismissed by simple motions to the GA. So the right thing to have done, or to do for the next GA, is to work through a presbytery to bring said motion the GA. Viola, I am sure your presbytery would endorse a motion like that, but even my own liberal presbytery would. We have very close ties with the Jewish community in Los Angeles, as well as world renowned scholars who would support and endorse any motions to suppress antisemitic vocabulary coming from advisory committees that are running amok. <br /><br />Jodie Gallo<br />Los Angeles, CAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-60809962127301575602014-06-28T16:16:58.269-07:002014-06-28T16:16:58.269-07:00The item can be found here: https://www.pc-biz.org...The item can be found here: https://www.pc-biz.org/PC-Biz.WebApp_deploy/(S(v1d5p4trpdam33y5doptrv25))/IOBView.aspx?m=ro&id=5099Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-90532370817607536582014-06-28T16:04:42.043-07:002014-06-28T16:04:42.043-07:00David the only move I know of that barely resemble...David the only move I know of that barely resembles that was at this general assembly where Neil Zampella moved that their name be removed from an overture because of their troubling Zionism Unsettled. Then there was a lot of negative things stated about them. His motion passed, praise the Lord!Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-23297899052392359222014-06-28T14:28:23.943-07:002014-06-28T14:28:23.943-07:00Viola, do I remember correctly that there have bee...Viola, do I remember correctly that there have been moves to de-certify IPMN, either at the last GA or before then, moves that were met with opposition from PCUSA leadership? I may be wrong, but I thought I recalled something like that.<br /><br />David Fischler<br />Woodbridge, VAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-78189776857357884452014-06-28T13:21:43.270-07:002014-06-28T13:21:43.270-07:00Jodie, only Presbyteries or commissioners can brin...Jodie, only Presbyteries or commissioners can bring motions to the GA. David is not a member of the PCUSA as I think you know. Viola Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146967423654966140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-63733967932466579652014-06-28T12:46:09.783-07:002014-06-28T12:46:09.783-07:00Yes, David, and as you know, nothing happens witho...Yes, David, and as you know, nothing happens without a motion. Did you or Viola bring forth a motion to the GA to do just what you suggested? How did it play out? <br /><br />Jodie Gallo<br />Los Angeles, CAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7560220615271337359.post-13030430143024640852014-06-28T10:41:04.278-07:002014-06-28T10:41:04.278-07:00Just got through reading the report. PCUSA should ...Just got through reading the report. PCUSA should demand that Framke open the Facebook page for inspection, and then de-certify IPMN as a mission network and scrub every hint of its existence from all PCUSA materials and web sites. It should also immediately demand an act of repentance from all IPMN leaders, and excommunicate those who refuse. Needless to say, I will not be betting my next paycheck on this.<br /><br />David Fischler<br />Woodbridge, VAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com